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Johan Bové

@derSchepp @stefanjudis You'll probably get an avalanche of webmentions on your 1st post :-D

Johan Bové

Johan Bové

Johan Bové

Replied to a post on rak.ac :

Hi Ryan, First of all, congratulations with your blog and gopher site / hole.

I discovered your writings just today on "republic". It's pretty cool how you managed to create and syndicate your notes and posts from Gopher to the WWW, and I was therefor wondering if you had heard of the Indieweb before? I think that on the wiki at https://indieweb.org you'll find lot of like-minded people and some introductions to indieweb tools likes webmentions and how to syndicate your content to other platforms if you wanted to.

In regard to "email tracking"; for commercial publishers this is their bread-and-butter, without knowing the statistics on how many readers and visitors their sites have, they can't convince new business to invest with them. So I'm afraid email tracking will be here for a long time still. Some publishers do offer a txt-only variant of their newsletters, and when they do, I opt in for that. And I avoid any tracking query parameters for any linked content.

Johan Bové

Webmention DELETE testing with webmention.rocks

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Testing if deleting a webmention works in Known.

The result of the quick test was successful:

Successful Tests
The mentions below have successfully passed the test! If you visit any of the links below, you should see an indication that the post was deleted.
    No Name
    Comment text not found
    https://social.johanbove.info/2019/11/05/testing-webmentions-in-known-and-deleting-a
    The post did not provide a URL, using source instead

The Status as sent by the Known CMS:

Request URL: https://social.johanbove.info/2019/11/05/testing-webmentions-in-known-and-deleting-a
Request method:GET
Remote address: ...
Status code: 410 Gone
Version:HTTP/2.0
Referrer Policy:no-referrer-when-downgrade

The Test

How to test is explained on this webmention.rocks test: https://webmention.rocks/delete/1

This test verifies that you properly send Webmentions when you delete a post. You will pass this test when you send a Webmention to a URL that you had previously mentioned in a post.

  1. Write a post that links to this page, and send Webmentions for your post.
  2. Verify you see your post as "pending" on this page.
  3. Delete your post, and ensure that the post's URL is now returning HTTP 410 (or a meta http-equiv 410 status).
  4. Send a Webmention to this page again.

You should see your post listed here in the green "Successful Tests" section when complete.

Resources

Johan Bové

I'm enjoying my "Indieweb" enabled site as it allows to post my Tweets first on a platform I own and then republish to Twitter etc. Webmentions are also pretty cool as they allow to interact with other posts from my own site and the reactions show up on their site and mine. I can even use my own site to authenticate to multiple services. The movement gives me hope that there will be more to the Internet than corporate silos alone.

Johan Bové

The process flow of replying on your own site through webmentions is still a little confusing to me, even after six months of playing around with a Known CMS site. Uncertain still as to where I should do a reply on a reply.

Johan Bové

Wondering if my outgoing are coming through. Seems like Likes of post by Jacky Alciné on his site https://v2.jacky.wtf/ and my "like" post responses on Greg's site (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/) are not coming through. Wondering if it could be the Akismet antispam tool? @jgmac1106 Are you using that on your Known site?

Johan Bové

Would be cool if webmentions could tell if it's under moderation and queued up for review.

Johan Bové

Rendering Webmentions using Client Side JavaScript · Jamie Tanna | Software (Quality) Engineer

Did the same thing, using my own code, to render webmentions on my home page website since it doesn't do any server-side rendering - it's pure HTML with SSI (Apache2) server-side includes.

Johan Bové

Installed the Akismet Spam filter by @mapkyca - https://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/known-plugins/
- looking at preemptively mitigate spam through webmentions.

Johan Bové

Johan Bové

That is some sound advice! The coolest new technologies I learned about are web sign-in, webmentions and microsub & micropub. It's really cool how I can use - essentially - my own domain name, a server and any editor or reader client to passively and actively participate online 🌐





Johan Bové

Johan Bové

This is a great idea @jgmac1106
Learning should be implemented by @khanacademy, @udacity and @Codecademy and actually all other online learning platforms. Have you reached out to these online course providers yet?

Johan Bové

Johan Bové

I totally agree. Just thinking out in the open here. How can we make the go mainstream though? How can we give the publishing tools the same appeal and adoption rate as Snapchat or even Twitter, especially so less techy people can simply join us? What would happen if FB and Twitter start supporting webmentions?

Johan Bové

Interesting experiment Chris. Too bad that the spam-bots found this site so fast. Especially for that reason I'm keeping the public comments on my own instance closed. What are you using for keeping webmentions to your site spam-free?

Johan Bové

Thanks for the follow Chris!
Didn't know you could do that with
I Would like to incorporate this into my own Known setup (if possible).
Checking out this stub about it: https://indieweb.org/follow

Johan Bové

Was wondering what kind of server requirements an enabled website would need for celebrities like Bill Gates in terms of integration with Webmentions.io and Brid.gy. Would a site like https://www.gatesnotes.com/ bring these services to their knees?