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P4P Unconference at Offline

Public "unconference" weekend with food, hang-outs, discussions, workshops and presentations of all sorts local-first p2p protocols

Location: Lichtenrader Str. 49 12049 Berlin, Germany

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Time Zone: Europe/Berlin (GMT +02:00)

https://p4p.space/
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Public "unconference" weekend with food, hang-outs, discussions, workshops and presentations of all sorts local-first p2p protocols: Cabal, Cable, Earthstar, Willow, p2panda, Irdest, Secure Scuttlebutt, PPPPP and more!

We want to ..

  • Meet and hang out around offline and Tempelhofer Feld
  • Discuss our ideas on local-first protocols - technically, politically and socially
  • Take notes together and gather what we've learned
  • Have communal lunch and dinners every day during this weekend in offline
  • Give public workshops for developers around the protocols we're building and how to use them
  • Share what we've been thinking about and doing in the last months in form of small presentations, anything from projects to recent cooking recipes
  • Create a space for spontaneous things to happen in smaller groups, similar to an unconference

Johan Bové

I really wish I could join, but work responsibilities will make it a little tricky to attend fully. I can drop by over my lunch break just to say hi and hand over some little token of my thankfulness of what you all do for the Indieweb.

Johan Bové

Checked into Two Sisters Café

Got a good sandwich and yummy almond cake for lunch

Johan Bové

Contact-less cash in the Real World?

How to hand out cash contact-less?

4 min read

Got a SwatchPay watch developed by Swatch and G+D Mobile Security, the other Saturday as a father’s day gift. I activated the payment function today using the Boon Virtual Debet Card I had registered for some months ago. Since WireCard in Germany is filing for bankrupcy there was some confusion and uncertainty.

The nice people at the Düsseldorf @Swatch store had to verify that it would work. It did. Some time later I paid contact-less for lunch with my new watch. Pretty sleek and COVID - safe.

Being able to pay contact-less is pretty great. But people on the street who depend on small change donations are really left out. I simply don’t carry cash and coins anymore with me. My credit-card size wallet also attest for that.

So how could we give small-change using a contact-less cash system? Similar to how in China vagrants use Alibaba Pay QR codes to beg for a small contribution on the street.

How would that work with a system that relies on NFC like SwatchPay? Give everyone who needs it access to NFC readers? What is the cheapest, most battery-efficient, weather-proof, solar-powered NFC reader payment terminal you know of?

It would have to be a system that works offline, but where the collections can be transfered into a system that exchanges for actual cash or exchange for food and clothes or shelter. People who have no identification should also still be able to use this system. The reader would have to taken care of as if it was actual cash.

How can we digitalize small-change donations in Germany where a large part of the population, luckily, still trusts cash in the hand more than electronic payment systems?

So the best solution is that we would reverse the devices. The people on the street all get “SwatchPay - like” watches or a similar thing like a card. They work without a battery, need only to be registered once. Then it would be up to everyone else to use their phones, or a portable NCF payments-capable device, to initialize the donation transaction. There would be an app for that. Just like the existing Boon or SwatchPay apps.

Instead of paying, we would be giving.

How much technology is inside the SwatchPay watches? It’s an NFC tag chip, similar to the ones we all have on our bank and credit cards.

How SwatchPay! Works (source)
Payments are made possible by the NFC chip, which is located on the back of the case. In a ring around the bezel, the watch has an antenna that catches the radiation, connecting the chip with the payment terminal. This is exactly the same technology as your bank card uses. You can activate your watch with your internet banking system. Setting this up costs about ten minutes. SwatchPAY! uses a method they call tokenization, which creates a unique “token” for the device. Simply store your credit or prepaid card on your smartwatch via the app (activation of SwatchPAY! watch in Swatch store) – the app is available for iOS and Android.

More insights in the tokenization can be found in the PDF: SwatchPay case-study by G+D Mobile Security.

Giesecke+Devrient Mobile Security is a company based in Munich, Germany

I’m not an engineer or have really investigated fully into the technical side of this, but the logic seems sound. What if we could tokenize everything this way?

And how we would avoid abuse is a whole different level of challenges to look into.

Johan Bové

Got the watch activated today with the Boon Virtual Debet Card I had registered for some months ago. The nice people at the Düsseldorf @Swatch store had to verify that it would work. It did. Some time later I paid contact-less for lunch with my new watch. Pretty sleek.






Johan Bové