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Johan Bové

@jackyalcine The hardest "Meta" app to ditch for me and my family will be WhatsApp - it's the only thing my parents in law are accepting right now as chat app. We have about 7GB worth of picture files in our family group. I backed these up, but still will be hard to replace with anything else.

Johan Bové

The process was done faster than initially estimated. Took about 1,5 hours. Used the BurnAware free software.
Happy that it worked since these M-Discs by Verbatim don't come cheap. But if you look at archiving precious data like family pictures it still is worth the effort and money.

Johan Bové

The origin of asking people to set a user name was in simpler times when people didn't have a gazillion other services or not a billion other people were using the same service already. Personally I don't mind it. As an early-adopter and someone with a fairly unique first and family name combination, I don't often have the problem of user names that already taken.

Johan Bové

> I’m talking about reaching people who are unlikely to ever attend such a meet-up. To use the IndieWeb Generations definition, I’m thinking about the 3s and maybe 4s in my network.

Thanks for the pointer to IndieWeb Generations (https://indieweb.org/generations#IndieWeb_Generations). Had missed that page completely until now.

Going to have to analyse that page first and think about how we can resolve your original point.

> seeking a way to engage and coach these particular users into their first steps, rather than relying on them to work through a guide or documentation.

Most regular people don't want to have a site for the sake of it, why do most people enjoy using silos (Facebook especially) so much?

What are their main activities there? Actions like safely sharing pictures of their children with their family etc. Silos simply work and are popular so it's easy to find friends and family to connect to. They are available everywhere, are free (if you take away the price of given away your privacy) and require zero technical knowledge. ( Wondering if somebody studies why Facebook is so popular?)

How can we enable them to achieve those actions using IndieWeb solutions, with the same ease as when they stay within the silos?

Projects like Known and micro.blog share those ambitions. So I'll try to contribute to those projects in order to make them "more mainstream" as-in "easier to use". Creating documentation and training will of course help too.